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Skeleton Crew EP005 – Marryl Fulmer (audio).mp3

[00:00:00] Merryl Fulmer

They’re not learning. They’re just memorizing. So when I meet with them and I say, Well, tell me the books that you have and that you use, and they look at me like books? People use books? Like, where are your books? Under my bed, or they’re in a box at my grandmother’s house. Well, that’s not the way you study. If you want to be successful, you want to pass this damn exam, well, then you’re going to do what I tell you to do, and it’s going to involve using books.

[00:00:33] Jennifer Callahan

Welcome to the Skeleton Crew. I’m your host, Jen Callahan, a technologist with ten plus years experience. In each episode, we will explore the fast paced, ever changing stuff that’s completely crazy field of radiology. We will speak to technologists from all different modalities about their careers and education. The educators and leaders who are shaping the field today and the business executives whose innovations are paving the future of radiology. This episode is brought to you by X-raytechnicianSchools.com. If you’re considering a career in X-ray, visit X-raytechnicianSchools.com To explore schools and to get honest information on career paths, salaries and degree options. Hi, everybody. Thanks for being with us here again today. Today I have a special guest with me. Her name is Merryl Fulmer. She’s well known in the southeastern part of Pennsylvania as well as New Jersey and in Delaware. Many people know her as the registry lady, for lack of good words, but she has a wealth of knowledge in all different fields. And she’s also to developed her own programs to further your education in the radiology field into different modalities. So, Merryl, thank you so much for taking the time this morning to be with me today.

[00:01:53] Merryl Fulmer

You’re very welcome.

[00:01:55] Jennifer Callahan

Thank you. So, Merryl, I just did a little brief synopsis of you, but can you share further your background in the field?

[00:02:02] Merryl Fulmer

Sure. Well. I went to X-ray school immediately after graduating high school. That was in 1973. And so I was an X-ray school for two years, 1973 to 1975. And that’s where I’ve been ever since teaching in one way, shape or form in radiology.

[00:02:26] Jennifer Callahan

1975 to now. So you’ve seen it all. You know, you went from film processing all the way, working your way through. Cr And. Dr. So you’ve seen the span of time.

[00:02:38] Merryl Fulmer

And when I teach, I sort of refer to procedures that are either extinct or endangered species list. So when I talk to students and I say, when I started, CT hadn’t even existed because CT didn’t start until the 80s and MRI was something that was just a figment of somebody’s imagination. I remember sitting at a lecture at the College of Physicians and Surgeons and there was the presenter was saying we’d have MRI, but you’ll never see it. There’s too many problems in terms of the installation and so forth and so on. So students can’t imagine a time before any of this stuff like really, and they certainly can’t imagine film screen. But I’m glad to have had all those experiences and that’s what’s kept me interested all these years because it’s constantly changing.

[00:03:33] Jennifer Callahan

Yeah. So you’re registered then in X-ray and then can you walk me through the other modalities that you are registered in as well?

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[00:03:41] Merryl Fulmer

Mammography, MRI, CT, Quality Management, and the only exam that I took and didn’t fill because I used to like taking them as an educator, I didn’t have to take them. I just wanted to take them so I could learn about the modality because I knew that I wasn’t going to be really working in the modalities, although I could have. But my favorite place to be is teaching and that I was able to do not having to be in the clinical setting to do that. As we discussed earlier around my dining room table, a lot of teaching got done.

[00:04:17] Jennifer Callahan

So with all those different ones, you had said that you sat for the boards but you haven’t specifically worked physically in that field.

[00:04:26] Merryl Fulmer

That’s correct.

[00:04:26] Jennifer Callahan

Or maybe you did. And maybe just for like a short period of time.

[00:04:30] Merryl Fulmer

There was a point in time when in order to sit for the exam, you didn’t have to document clinical proficiency. Now you do. Now you have to have at least 16 hours of structured education in order to take the exam. So I’ve never clinically done MRI. Okay. And teach it. I wrote the course on it. I have a pacemaker, so I couldn’t do it even if I wanted to and see my of all the other modalities, quality management applies to everything so I can apply my quality management knowledge and skills to everything that I do in life. But when we went digital, the registry discontinued that exam, the quality.

[00:05:17] Jennifer Callahan

Management.

[00:05:17] Merryl Fulmer

It was primarily based on film screen quality management tests, so they discontinued it. But I still maintain that certification. Mammography is my favorite and I have worked and could work clinically in mammography. Yeah, but CT and MRI don’t have to do it. But I do have to understand it to be able to do it. Yeah, but to be a CT tech and to have to work 24 hours. You know what it’s involved in? Ct.

[00:05:49] Jennifer Callahan

Oh, yeah. The CT text and the hospitals that I’ve worked at, they’re just work to the bones, especially now. Because if you go into the E.R., I feel like depending on what you’re coming in with, there’s a baseline of exams that are ordered for you and Cat scans always there on the forefront. Yeah, and.

[00:06:05] Merryl Fulmer

It’s evolving, too. There’s so, so much cool stuff happening with CTE. Yeah.

[00:06:10] Jennifer Callahan

So would you say you were, as you were saying, that mammo at this point, probably out of all the modalities that you’ve taken the registry in or that you teach that you like, that the best, what do you what is it about Mammo that draws you to it?

[00:06:25] Merryl Fulmer

The importance of detecting breast cancer early and understanding what a patient would go through if being diagnosed with breast cancer. And it’s so prevalent and I love it. I love it. I teach that course at least 2 to 3 times a year. Many students have have taken the course and it’s good. I love Mammo. It’s just what can I say? I love working with women.

[00:06:53] Jennifer Callahan

Yeah. So can you just bring us through your education journey starting? You said that you started as a technologist and then you worked yourself into becoming part of education. How did you transition from being staff technologist into developing education programs? Okay.

[00:07:09] Merryl Fulmer

Well, one of your questions was what inspired me to go into the field? So I grew up in a neighborhood called Logan. I went to Philadelphia High School for Girls, which is Broad and Olney. I went to X-ray school at Einstein. My radius was rather limited, and the reason why I went into radiology was my younger sister, Beryl was born a paraplegic. I was eight at the time, so, so much of my childhood was spent involved in her care because we would have to go to Mohs Rehab and we’d have to do this. So I spent a lot of time in the hospital with my parents. My older sister Carol, went into nursing. I think because of that influence, my other sister Andy went into medical and respiratory, and when it came to me, it was like, okay, Merryl, what do you want to do? And I’m like, I have no idea. And my parents said, What do you think about x ray? And I said, I don’t know. Let’s give it a try. So I entered it just because I had no idea. And also and my husband will hate this. I had been dating my boyfriend for four years. I met him going into high school, so I knew that we were headed for marriage and I just needed a job. So I went into x ray and and fell in love with it. And I actually started my teaching while I was a student.

[00:08:43] Jennifer Callahan

Oh, wow.

[00:08:44] Merryl Fulmer

In x ray school. Because at the time and again, you have no idea because you’re young. But they would hire people as fluoro aids who didn’t have to be registered and they would just do fluoro barium enemas and upper GIs, which we did all day long at Einstein. We had three fluoro rooms all going at the same time. There was this one technologist named Chris who wasn’t registered and wanted to be, and I took her under my wing and I would I tutored her and she passed. So she was officially my first student and pictures of her in some of my other presentations. It was at that point that I knew and people said, You’ve got a certain talent that you need to share. It was at that very point that I started teaching, and when I graduated X-ray school, I was hired by Einstein. I had a lot of experience in mammography and we had a great world renowned mammography department at Einstein. Jack Coleman was the director of the department. And I don’t know if you know him, but he was one of the original experts in radiology. He was my program director for one year. And his wife, Angie Coleman, was in charge of mammography. And I had spent a lot of time in mammography in those two years. Concurrent with that, there was a job opening that I was encouraged to apply for, and it was for program director at Chestnut Hill Hospital. And I’m like program director, I’m just an X-ray tech. They were like, Just go for it.

[00:10:33] Merryl Fulmer

Just apply for it. And at the. Time there weren’t these strict regulations and requirements from joint review committee. Anybody could take on the role. You didn’t have to worry. It was crazy. So I applied for it and I got it. My very first job, two years out of X-ray school, was program director at Chestnut Hill Hospital. It was a fabulous job. It’s still a fabulous hospital. And then over the years, I went for my associate’s degree and then went for my bachelor’s degree and then started for my master’s degree all along, having other people pay for it because, you know, that was one of the perks. So I started I missed doing those L5-s1 spot films, you know, I missed the clinical part of it. It’s also adjunct faculty and clinical instructors. So it took me back into the hospitals on many occasions. So I’ve pretty much done a lot. I’ve done a lot. I’ve been program director at Four Institutions. I was a program director at Chestnut Hill at Lions Technical Institute, which a lot of people don’t know about, but it was a very progressive organization at the time. It first of all, it was privately owned. And God forbid people should make money off of x ray programs. They later learned how to do that. But at the time, all the programs were hospital based and the hospital supported the program. And then when they learned that they were losing money because they have to pay a program director and they have to pay clinical instructors, that’s when they started to affiliate with the colleges.

[00:12:10] Merryl Fulmer

So I’ve been clinical instructor, I’ve been program director and my own thing. This a unique position. One of my favorite jobs was working for the American College of Radiology. Everybody should know ACR. They have a site in Philadelphia that does clinical research. And I worked there for five years. I was part of many major trials that have gone through like the Demus trial, which is a significant trial for mammography. It’s the trial that proved that digital was equal to or better than film screen. So it was the pivotal trial that allowed the world to convert to digital mammography. They didn’t want to convert the mammography community didn’t want to because technically they were losing spatial resolution and they didn’t want to do that because they felt that they would miss cancers. But anyhow, that’s old business now. But that was really a cool job and my title was Clinical Trials Trainer, and I was the one that taught the physicians and everybody what a clinical trial was, the basis for clinical trial technology. So that was good. And then now I’m doing my own thing. I always did my own thing, but that’s what I do now. I don’t really report to anybody other than the responsibility to my students. But I did work at Montgomery County Community College where I brought those four programs that we can talk about more the mammo, the CT, the MRI and the vascular interventional. I was teaching those courses through Montgomery County Community College.

[00:13:55] Jennifer Callahan

Yeah. So let’s circle back to that to share. As I had said previously in your introduction, you know, about preparing students for the registry. I know from personal experience you actually tutored me in taking my registry boards. You’ve been doing this for quite a long time, going from your dining room. Now you’re doing it remotely or via Zoom doing these reviews. But I did personally sit in your own dining room, myself and a few other women. When did you begin that? Were you doing that while you were doing like the ACR thing and program director? Yes.

[00:14:29] Merryl Fulmer

I’ve always done it and it was timeless because it could be morning, night, weekends, evenings, although now I don’t like evenings, I want to be on my sofa watching shows on TV.

[00:14:42] Jennifer Callahan

I thought it was so great of you that you just offered your home to people to come and prepare themselves for the exam. And I truly have to say that, as I was saying to you before we started recording, that you really did help me. There was a few things that I was questionable about and there was something the way that you explained it, and all of a sudden it just clicked for me like that. And I was like, Wow.

[00:15:03] Merryl Fulmer

I hate to sound obnoxious, but I’m good. I know what I’m talking about. I know what it takes to get a student to pass their exam. And I’ve developed and perfected my technique. It’s called the elephant technique. The concept is and it’s really very simple and anybody can do it before you even get started studying. First of all, say, how do you eat an elephant? And they look at me like I’m crazy, but how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time? And that’s the study for this exam. One bite at a time. So you have to know. What the exam looks like. You have to follow what’s called the content spec, which is a document that the registry puts out every five years, saying to you, Jen, you want to pass the boards, know everything in this document. It really is quite simple. That’s how we plan it. I organize the content specs, match it up to the elephant sheet, which is just a game plan and a schedule. And then the other thing that I do is before you even get started, we will do a pretest and then you’ll study, read and study, watch the videos, read and study. And then when you’re done that topic, you’ll do a post test, which is the same as the pretest.

[00:16:22] Merryl Fulmer

My method is quantifiable. Student says, How am I doing? It’s not based upon my gut reaction. It’s based upon what was your pretest score? What was your post test score? It’s quantifiable, it’s measurable. And if a student follows my plan, they will be successful. I don’t guarantee that they’re going to pass the boards because some people come to me with a 74 and they have to get a 75. But I’ve had people come to me with 60, even occasionally a 50. And it’s like I think to myself, I can’t do this. Student can’t do this. But I never say no. I never say no to a student. And I’ve had students do some miraculous improvements. One student got a 61, she took it again, got a 61. I worked with her and she got like 95. I mean, it was like crazy. And then this particular student, she was originally around my dining room table, so I got her through the x ray boards. And then about two years later, she says, I want to go to radiation therapy school. I really want to go to radiation therapy school. My mother died from breast cancer and I really wanted, you know, her. So I said, okay, good. And she says, Only on the contingency that you teach me the physics.

[00:17:44] Merryl Fulmer

Oh, my God. Don’t know. Radiation therapy, physics, but I’m willing to learn. She sent me this huge textbook on radiation therapy, and I studied it. And that’s what motivated me to create these other courses. Anyhow, I like taking something that I know nothing about and doing something with that information. Bottom line is she just graduated radiation therapy school and I tutored her through a lot of it on the radiation physics, which is not much different than x ray physics. It’s just that it includes those pair production and photodisintegration interactions that don’t occur in radiology. So anyhow, I like challenges. I’ve tutored students and ultrasound, you just name it because learning is learning. If you get disciplined to what to do, how to do it, what resources you have. Many of my students today, I get a lot of students from this Facebook site called HRT Prep Page. All it takes is one student to tell another student to tell another student. So don’t advertise it all Today’s students, they don’t know how to study. They fail the exam because they think that by doing questions, answers, questions, answers that they’re learning. They’re not learning. They’re just memorizing. So when I meet with them. And I say, Well, tell me the books that you have and that you use.

[00:19:12] Merryl Fulmer

And they look at me like books. People use books like, Where are your books? Under my bed? Or they’re in a box at my grandmother’s house. Well, that’s not the way you study. If you want to be successful, you want to pass this damn exam, well, then you’re going to do what I tell you to do, and it’s going to involve using books. And so I give them the direction on how to do that. You would think that it’s common sense and you would think that the schools would prepare them, but they don’t. There’s great schools, but then the majority of them show a PowerPoint. Read verbatim from the PowerPoint test, from the PowerPoint. And this does great because that’s all they had to do was read the PowerPoint, study the PowerPoint. But that doesn’t mean they know anything beyond what was in the PowerPoint. Never opening a book. And they really don’t know it, but they get out of the program and then they fail the exam. Usually students come to me if they fail twice. But now I get students that fail once, and now I get students who are still in the programs and want to be proactive. I’ve just yesterday who she graduates in December. And wants to get started on it.

[00:20:33] Jennifer Callahan

Because she’s having a hard time already with the information where she’s trying to prepare herself.

[00:20:38] Merryl Fulmer

Maybe a little bit, but who doesn’t? You never know how you’re going to do. But she just wants to be as fully prepared as she possibly can be. And so they acquiring more resources, but they don’t know how to use them. They really don’t. So teach them good studying. Students think. And with all due respect, the directors push this. Oh, flag a question. If you don’t know what the answer is, slide the question and come back to it afterwards. My rules. You will never ever flag a question again. It’s the worst advice that can be given. If you don’t know it, then you’re not going to know it three years down the line. There’s no angels or spirits that come to you during that exam giving you the answer as far as your energy level. You don’t have it three hours down the road. You got it early on all of your energy into early and never flag a question. So don’t have many rules, but I have seven really good rules that if you follow them. One of my questions that I say to the students, these content specs, have you ever seen them? Usually they have on a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you use them during the course of your studying? A one meaning? Well, you have it at ten, meaning that you eat, sleep and breathe with it. And they’re like, oh, the two. Well, here’s the deal. It becomes a ten. It’s your Bible for studying.

[00:22:12] Jennifer Callahan

How many students would you say at this point that you’ve helped along from the span of the 70s up until now? Thousand. So the different programs that you’ve developed on your own, you were saying how certain didactic work is required for some of the modalities. Do you have to have your programs accredited by the art for that?

[00:22:33] Merryl Fulmer

My programs are approved by the art. They’re called Racemes. Organizations that can approve a program like the ACR is a raceme. The Ultrasound society is. So you submit your work to those organizations and they will review it and make suggestions on how to change it and then give you credit approval for it. Once it’s approved, the art will accept it. It’s not as if the art approves it. The art accepts it.

[00:23:12] Jennifer Callahan

Do they assign credits to it?

[00:23:15] Merryl Fulmer

To my mama’s CT. Mri and vascular are all approved by the AST for 40 continuing education credits. One of your questions had to do with modifying the program. Well, whenever it’s necessary to modify it and consistent with the time that it has to be renewed, like most of my programs I have on a three year renewal, which is the maximum. And after three years you have to resubmit or modify and then resubmit it. And I just prefer because that’s my favorite organization in the whole wide world. It’s a great organization and everybody should be a member of it. They’ve done more for me professionally over the years. Like when we went from film screen to digital, I had to modify the program. And now that we have DVT, digital, breast tomosynthesis, I need to modify it again. So my programs are absolutely up to date and current.

[00:24:23] Jennifer Callahan

So the question, though, just for everyone that’s listening, the question that she’s speaking about that I had provided to her earlier was that when she had originally developed these programs and up until now, does she have to go back and modify it in terms of the technology advancements? And obviously, you just answered that question, but just to share with everyone what exactly what we were discussing.

[00:24:43] Merryl Fulmer

And let me add, I’ve got four 40 hour programs for each of those programs. I also created 16 hour programs because the registry minimum is 16 hours of structured education. But as an educator, 16 hours of MRI is not going to get you very far in terms of success on the exam, nor success in the practice. Six hours in my mind, and is an introduction to the modality or a registered review for the modality and furthermore with mammography. There’s really little utility for 16 hours because mammography is the modality that’s not only governed and regulated by the art, but it’s regulated more importantly by the government. The FDA, under the Mammography Quality Standards Act, which is referred to as Mqsa. Under that regulation, they require 40 hours. That’s why. When did the other courses, I thought, well, if 40 hours is significant and acceptable for mom, I’m going to make the other three courses, 40 hours as well, maintain my accreditation and I pay for renewal so that they can all be active in case somebody needs it.

[00:26:13] Jennifer Callahan

So is there anything here that you would like to further discuss maybe that we haven’t hit on yet in terms of education and or the programs that you run?

[00:26:22] Merryl Fulmer

One of my recent new projects is there’s this exam that is administered by many of the colleges that will determine the student has to pass this HSC exam. And it’s really hard. And the students, many of them, are failing it. After spending two years studying radiologic technology and after spending these recent students $68,000 on their tuition, if they don’t pass this exam, they’re going to be kicked out of their programs. And I really have an issue with that. But I’m not the one to make any of these decisions about it. So anyhow, I’ve been doing some hesi preparation. As a matter of fact, today at noontime, I have two students who failed, and if they don’t pass it by Friday And when did they contact me? Last Friday. So I’ve got one week to get them on board to know enough to pass it. It’s crazy because it puts me I mean, yesterday I gave them three hours. The day before I gave them three hours. And normally I don’t have that kind of time in that short notice.

[00:27:34] Jennifer Callahan

And what type of exam is this thing? I’ve never heard of it.

[00:27:38] Merryl Fulmer

It’s a comprehensive exam that supposedly determines their predictability for passing the registry. But yet when I look at some of the questions, I’m not a fan. It has them spending time studying material that’s not consistent with the content specs. It’s just an unfair torture in my opinion. If the teachers had prepared them properly, they wouldn’t fail the HSC. Why are they failing the HSC? And furthermore, they shouldn’t get kicked out of their program. So anyhow, that’s like all of a sudden this new thing that’s happening and very real and very threatening.

[00:28:17] Jennifer Callahan

So do you think that they’re using this as a tool? Because a lot of programs well, I guess they have to share what their pass fail rate is in terms of the registry and how prepared a student was entering into that. So do you think that they’re using this as a tool and possibly having students kicked out if they believe that they won’t pass the boards?

[00:28:38] Merryl Fulmer

It’s an easy way to get rid of a student. By the same token, it does put a mark on their integrity and on their statistic rates that they have to report. Now, you know, I did hear through the grapevine because this is the third student in the last week and a half that’s contacting me, but they’re from the same program. If they don’t at least graduate the program, they’re never going to have a chance to sit for the registry in the first place. And then they’re retired two years and their entire life savings is down the tubes, you know, and it’s not right. But I can only get so involved politically. What I can do is work my butt off and work their butt off to get them to pass. So it’s really very crazy with these two students. I just made up a list 65 questions that both of them got wrong and they’re the questions that I’m going over with them. But there’s just not enough hours. There’s no time. So I might have a new approach to recruiting students to prepare for the HSC. Better. They give them a week and their lives depend on it. I also just had a student and I’ve had a few of them over the years, but the limited licensure exam, there is an exam that’s administered by the registry, but these folks that are limited in licensure, they can never work in a hospital, but they can work in outpatient departments and it’s very limited. Like they never have to learn Floro procedures because they’re never going to be doing them in and out. So I had this, you know, I call them kids, everybody’s my kid. It doesn’t matter how old you are. I helped him successfully pass his HSC. Now his limited exam to crazy exam.

[00:30:25] Jennifer Callahan

Out of all the students that you’ve had passed through in this time, is there anyone particular that kind of stands out in your mind?

[00:30:32] Merryl Fulmer

They’re all good. There’s no such thing as a bad student. There’s just bad schools, bad directors. And they’re not bad either. But it’s just a matter of smart learning. Yeah. I say to them, this whole issue with the books, would you go to a brain surgeon? God forbid you have a brain tumor. Would you go to a brain surgeon that never opened his book? No, of course not. Why would a patient go to you if you’re not opening your books? And the bottom line is, if you don’t open them, you’re not going to pass this thing. My advice to anybody out there is to give yourself time. Anything can be accomplished, but it’s tough to accomplish it in five days. Don’t wait till the last minute. I got an email yesterday from a student. She had already signed up for my courses and never scheduled any of the classes. She told me her mother’s been sick and she’s been taking care of her mother. And, you know, life happens. She has till December. And I said, Well, I’m glad you’re calling me now. There’s a lot we can get done between now and December, but don’t call me up the beginning of November and say, let’s get started, because that’s not fair to you and it’s not fair to me.

[00:31:53] Merryl Fulmer

I had a student two weeks ago who told me that during school Covid happened, she didn’t have clinical and she had been diagnosed with melanoma. I said, Wow, that’s a lot, she says. And I have to take the exam next Friday. I said, We’ll do this on Monday morning. Call the registry and explain to them your situation. Just maybe they’ll give you an extension because they did give extensions for Covid. But for the most part, the registry is unrelenting. They cannot make exceptions. So I said, call me after you talk to the registry on Monday. So she did call me and she did say, sorry, I have to take this test. I’m like, okay, here we go, girlfriend. And we had a week of me. And again, I have a full schedule of other students too, but I managed to spend as much time as I could with her. She managed to work her butt off and she passed it with a 75.

[00:32:57] Jennifer Callahan

Yay! That’s great.

[00:32:59] Merryl Fulmer

It’s really good feeling when you can impact somebody’s life. Like, I couldn’t have done it without you or with some of the students. It’s true. They couldn’t have done it without me. And that makes me feel so gratified that I can help somebody. So at some point a few years ago, the registry made me get a website and I’m like, I don’t need a website, but I had to for registry purposes. So I do have a website now which will enable anybody that’s interested to sign up. But feel free to contact me for questions. You know, I don’t want you to just sign up. You can sign up for the post-primary exams. Those exams you can sign up for tutoring and the website is w-w-w dot Merryl fulmer.com.

[00:33:50] Jennifer Callahan

There you go. If you could give one piece of advice to current students, prospective students or even technologists who are now in the field looking to further their career, what would it be?

[00:34:01] Merryl Fulmer

It would be make sure you love what you’re doing. The field offers so many different options, not only the specific modalities, but what you do within those modalities. Do you want to be a technologist? Do you want to go into research? Do you want to go? I do my thing. I’m happy I’m not a sit on the beach kind of person. As long as I’m here, my kids are good. I’m happy, right? I love what I do. And I’m so glad you asked me to do this. I just love what you do. You know, the worst thing is you’ve been in contact with people that you know. They’re so nasty. They don’t like what they do, Then don’t do it. I think the field of diagnostic imaging certainly offers those opportunities.

[00:34:48] Jennifer Callahan

Well, Merryl, thank you so much for being with us today and sharing your education journey and everything that you’ve helped everyone in the world with. In terms of radiology, if you ever need help with anything, obviously you can hear Merryl is the jack of all trades when it comes to the field of radiology. And she just has a wealth of knowledge.

[00:35:07] Merryl Fulmer

What you’re doing now is amazing, too. It’s unique. No one’s done it before. And I’m real proud of you. You’re one of my kids. All right. Thank you.

[00:35:16] Jennifer Callahan

Thank you.

[00:35:23] Jennifer Callahan

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